Re: Pre-Season 2: Hamilton at Toronto (err...Guelph)
Posted: Wed May 27, 2026 1:35 am
But shatto....Willie Jefferson should have been named Grey Cup MVP that day!!
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But shatto....Willie Jefferson should have been named Grey Cup MVP that day!!
I like your thinking here, weaken the Argonauts QB room by removing the best backup QB in the league who by the way bailed the team out and won the Grey Cup not so long ago, give me a break!IssuesMcgee wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2026 9:59 pmI'm not saying he was the sole reason the Argos missed the playoffs, but has he ever led a team to the playoffs?paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2026 8:53 pmThe notion that Arbuckle was to blame for missing the playoffs last year seems rather fanciful. So does the idea that two guys who looked OK for a quarter each against 3rd- and 4th-stringers are outperforming the guy who won a Grey Cup 18 months ago. But we'll see, won't we?IssuesMcgee wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2026 8:44 pm
If Arbuckle continues to be outperformed by Horn and Guercio, they will absolutely demote him. I suspect Arbuckle will have a much shorter leash than last year, because we already know he won't lead the team to the playoffs if Kelly goes down.
I started my post with the word "If."
I hope I am wrong but we will see. If he continues to not play as well as the other QB's, then yes it's obvious like any team, the Argos will move on to another QB. That's kind of how football works. You don't go with your worst QB.
You began your post with "If Arbuckle continues to be outperformed," and you're doubling down on that. What exactly is this assessment based on? One quarter of preseason football he played against second-stringers, and one quarter each played by the other two guys against third- and fourth-stringers? If either of those guys had completely lit it up that day, I could see some folks racing to the conclusion that they're deserving of promotion, but let's be clear -- Horn completed FIVE passes for 72 yards, with a badly thrown ball that was picked. Guercio went 3-of-4 for 48 yards, and rushed twice for 15 yards. Not exactly the second coming of Doug Flutie.IssuesMcgee wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2026 9:59 pmI'm not saying he was the sole reason the Argos missed the playoffs, but has he ever led a team to the playoffs?paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2026 8:53 pmThe notion that Arbuckle was to blame for missing the playoffs last year seems rather fanciful. So does the idea that two guys who looked OK for a quarter each against 3rd- and 4th-stringers are outperforming the guy who won a Grey Cup 18 months ago. But we'll see, won't we?IssuesMcgee wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2026 8:44 pm
If Arbuckle continues to be outperformed by Horn and Guercio, they will absolutely demote him. I suspect Arbuckle will have a much shorter leash than last year, because we already know he won't lead the team to the playoffs if Kelly goes down.
I started my post with the word "If."
I hope I am wrong but we will see. If he continues to not play as well as the other QB's, then yes it's obvious like any team, the Argos will move on to another QB. That's kind of how football works. You don't go with your worst QB.
"Arbuckle continues to be outperformed by Horn and Guercio" is not a true statement based on the two camp days I attended. I saw a wide gulf between Arbuckle and the other two. Hopefully those guys develop into something more, but claiming Arbuckle is being outperformed defies the current reality.IssuesMcgee wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2026 7:23 am As Paul said, we'll see. What I am saying is more than possible and happens in football. It's not like I am making some ridiculous statement and presenting it as a matter of fact, such as "we don't need Kelly. Cameron Dukes can lead this team just fine."
Clickbait!? Do you think I am making money off how many replies I get? I don't have a signature with hyperlinks on it.paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2026 7:18 amYou began your post with "If Arbuckle continues to be outperformed," and you're doubling down on that. What exactly is this assessment based on? One quarter of preseason football he played against second-stringers, and one quarter each played by the other two guys against third- and fourth-stringers? If either of those guys had completely lit it up that day, I could see some folks racing to the conclusion that they're deserving of promotion, but let's be clear -- Horn completed FIVE passes for 72 yards, with a badly thrown ball that was picked. Guercio went 3-of-4 for 48 yards, and rushed twice for 15 yards. Not exactly the second coming of Doug Flutie.IssuesMcgee wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2026 9:59 pmI'm not saying he was the sole reason the Argos missed the playoffs, but has he ever led a team to the playoffs?paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2026 8:53 pm
The notion that Arbuckle was to blame for missing the playoffs last year seems rather fanciful. So does the idea that two guys who looked OK for a quarter each against 3rd- and 4th-stringers are outperforming the guy who won a Grey Cup 18 months ago. But we'll see, won't we?
I started my post with the word "If."
I hope I am wrong but we will see. If he continues to not play as well as the other QB's, then yes it's obvious like any team, the Argos will move on to another QB. That's kind of how football works. You don't go with your worst QB.
Arbuckle has never led his team to the playoffs, but he has played well in a playoff game and in a Grey Cup game. And he has started dozens of CFL games. This stuff matters to coaches whose jobs are always on the line. But again, we'll see.
I'd almost think you were engaging in clickbait if I didn't know better.