Argofans

paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:22 pm

OV Argo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:39 pm People are free to believe in any fairy tales they like; pretty common in the internet / social media times now. The BOGoofs are counting on you !!!

Would believing the owners would never walk away from the league because they've endured losses for years qualify as a fairy tale?

OV Argo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 3:10 pm

paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:22 pm

OV Argo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:39 pm People are free to believe in any fairy tales they like; pretty common in the internet / social media times now. The BOGoofs are counting on you !!!

Would believing the owners would never walk away from the league because they've endured losses for years qualify as a fairy tale?

Let them walk - love to see those clowns get lost.

Then, maybe, a new pro league of Canadian football could be formed up here. American wannabes need not apply. Enshrined key Canadian rules, and a majority of players on rosters are Canadians. Maybe Doman in BC could be convinced to join, if the new & improved CFL does not work out for him.

shatto wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:10 pm Not sure how reducing the field to 100 yards will make the game better. More Americanized obviously. Could there be a clue in the comment about potential International interests in our league? Should it read American interests? Are the owners looking for a quick buck in another American expansion? I hope not--remember how the last attempt worked out!!!

paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 4:32 pm News flash: there's a women's pro hockey team in Toronto, and a women's pro basketball team in Toronto, and they play in leagues that are growing -- and adding further competition for disposable income in this market. But leaving everything as it is in the CFL is definitely the best idea.

paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 4:32 pm News flash: there's a women's pro hockey team in Toronto, and a women's pro basketball team in Toronto, and they play in leagues that are growing -- and adding further competition for disposable income in this market. But leaving everything as it is in the CFL is definitely the best idea.

ArgoBruce wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 11:19 am I have so many thoughts about the specific changes, but most have already been discussed so I won’t repeat them. For the record, I’ll only say that I support the views of Nathan Rourke and Santino Filoso at 3-Down Nation https://3downnation.com/2025/09/26/than ... e-changes/. I’ll just add two things.

What problem are the changes intended to solve? It’s all a little vague. The commissioner is pleased to “clean up the canvas” whatever that means. If the problem is a declining fanbase, that’s a marketing issue. The games this year have been highly entertaining. Teams are averaging 27 points a game (54 combined), there’s plenty of last-minute drama and there’s more parity than the last few years. Why change the product on the field? Let’s look at MLSE’s marketing efforts. The population of the GTA is 7.1 million. Since the Argos average only 14,000 per game, that’s a “success” rate of 0.2%. The population for the Winnipeg area is just 953,000 (all figures from Google) but they average 32,000 per game for a rate of 3.3%. On a per capita basis, the Bombers are 16 times more successful than MLSE at putting bums in the seats. Yes, I know there’s more competition for the sports dollar in Toronto but does MLSE even do any marketing, apart from their efforts on behalf of the Buffalo Bills?

I’ve always treasured the CFL because it is ours - Canadian. The opponents are from Canadian cities, the only anthem is O Canada (apart from a few years in the 1990’s), the players could be neighbours and the rules are ours. A hundred years of fine-tuning those rules has made our game challenging and exciting. There are so many ways to score. (Quick story: Last Saturday the Calgary Dinos were trailing the University of Regina Rams 36 to 27 - 9 points - with only 13 seconds left. From the 28-yard line, they scored a touchdown, a 2 point convert and then, with only six seconds left in the game, drove the kickoff out the back of the opposing end zone to earn a rouge and tie the game). We’re told the new changes “modernize” the game. Let’s use honest words, they “Americanize” the game. Every one of those changes comes from the NFL rulebook. Given that these changes were developed in secrecy and delivered as a done deal, I suspect that there is more to come in succeeding years. CFL rules are finely balanced and drastic changes to the playing field will result in a cascade of rule changes. My friends and I are still debating whether to renew our Argo tickets for next year, but our emotional connection to the CFL has certainly taken a hit.

AngeloV wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 11:47 am And I’ll ask again. What would everyone that wants to die on this hill do if 4 or 5 owners were tired of losing money on these teams and walked away?

I love the game as is. Absolutely in a perfect world, I would not change a thing. But I would rather have this future version of the CFL game than no CFL at all. I mean, we’ve already lowered our attendance expectations and we are still not hitting those lower expectations. People are so quick to throw out that word “marketing” but there is more to it than that.

Even in Vancouver, they need to bring in a high priced musical talent once a year to get a great crowd. Problem with that is it people were leaving after the musical act. Something needs to be tried to bring in new, young fans. People need to just accept it. If you’re an Argos fan, you will still be an Argos fan. If not, just leave and stop whining.